qiinfo Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 Olá pessoal, Alguém já fez testes com o firebird e o mysql ? Qual seria o melhor a se utilizar ? Obrigado, Rossine FW 2.2c + @say + Clipper 5.2e + libs 5.3b / FWH 2.7 + @say + xHarbour Comercial 0.99.?? Divinópolis/ MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qiinfo Posted December 18, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 Olá pessoal, Alguém já fez testes com o firebird e o mysql ? Qual seria o melhor a se utilizar ? Obrigado, Rossine FW 2.2c + @say + Clipper 5.2e + libs 5.3b / FWH 2.7 + @say + xHarbour Comercial 0.99.?? Divinópolis/ MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIACPD Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 Olá Rossine, Trabalhei com Firebird com Delphi, mais em Fivewin trabalho atualmente com Mysql, com o Firebird tive problema de lentidão que o torna inviável para conecção via web. O Mysql é rapido via web e agora tem triggers que ajuda muito e é semelhante ao triggers do firebird que estava acostumado. Esta que é so copiar o arquivo.fdb e o banco ja esta copiado é mentira, se estiver sendo usado o banco vem corrompido, dependendo da versão após um certo tamanho o arquivo corrompe, tem que estar de olho. Se acessar um terminal com IP e outro com nome do servidor voce corre um sério risco de perder o arquivo, ele se perde e corrompe o arquivo. Tirando a lentidao e estes probleminas ele é ótimo, voce instala e configura tudo automático com o innosetup. Com o mysql estou vendo que além de mais rápido local é também via web, e tem muito mais informação o que ajuda muito. Uso a versão 5.27 do mysql a um ano. e esta legal, só falta conseguir instalar e configurar o mysql de forma automática. Daniel Segura ciacpd@terra.com.br Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burai Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 Rossine, Eu pessoalmente prefiro o Firebird pela facilidade de instalação e manutenção, mas ambos os bancos de dados são muito bons e gratuitos. O Firebird é bem menor e fácil de instalar, cria um unico arquivo para cada banco de dados (com as tabelas dentro), o chato dele na versão 1.5.x é que pra criar chaves estrangeiras ele precisa de acesso exclusivo. É fácil de embutir a instalação do FB com nossos programas. Com relação ao MySQL, não posso falar muito, é muito comum em páginas web, em aplicativos desktop é mais difÃcil de se ver. Quando eu o testei há uns 2 ou 3 anos ele ainda tinha muitos pontos fracos, como a inexistência de chaves estrangeiras e integridade relacional, além de cada tabela e indice serem arquivos avulsos tao qual os DBF's. Ocupava um espação e não era tão trivial de se instalar, mas - como disse - não o testei atualmente e pelo que sei muitos desses problemas foram resolvidos... [ ]'s Maurilio FWH 7.01 | xHB + SQLRDD | Workshop 4.5 | xDevStudio Garça - SP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qiinfo Posted December 18, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 Olá Daniel e Maurilio, Obrigado pelas explicações que cada um tem nestes bancos de dados. Realmente eu prefiro automatizar todo processo de criação do banco de dados e importação dos dbf´s. No firebird já faço isto e pelo que vejo no mysql, o banco tem que ser criado dentro dele, pelos menos é o que já me informaram por aÃ. Por enquanto vou continuar com o firebird. Obrigado a todos, Rossine FW 2.2c + @say + Clipper 5.2e + libs 5.3b / FWH 2.7 + @say + xHarbour Comercial 0.99.?? Divinópolis/ MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcleoner Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 citação:Uso a versão 5.27 do mysql a um ano. e esta legal, só falta conseguir instalar e configurar o mysql de forma automática. id=quote>id=quote>Daniel Para mim tambem só falta isso. Vamos ficar em contato se um conseguir passa para outro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
personal Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 Entrando de bicão, mas tambem estou atraz disto. Se souber alguma coisa, posto aqui. Oliveira, Sérgio A. PERSONAL Comp. e Sitemas.id=green> FWH 2.5, xharbour 0.99.4, SqlLib,AdoRDD, MySql, xMate. TWBrowse(HC),C5Menu,vPrinter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sygecom Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 Srs. segue abaixo o script .iss que uso no innosetup com a versão 5.0.47 NO-INSTALL do MYSQL, tenho meu proprio instalador do MYSQL...chiq no urtimo !!! Obs:apenas alterar pasta onde se encontra os arquivos do MYSQL [setup] MinVersion=4.1.2222,4.0.1381 AppCopyright=Mysql.org AppName=Mysql 5.0.45 AppVerName=Mysql 5.0.45 UninstallLogMode=new AppPublisherURL=http://www.mysqll.com/ UninstallDisplayName=Mysql 5.0.45 AppVersion=Mysql 5.0.45 VersionInfoCompany=Mysql 5.0.45 VersionInfoCopyright=Mysql.org OutputManifestFile=D:\SYGECOM\CD\WindowsXP.Manifest SetupIconFile= DefaultDirName=C:\MYSQL AllowRootDirectory=true SourceDir=D:\SYGECOM\CD OutputBaseFilename=Instalador_Mysql_5_0_45 VersionInfoDescription=Mysql 5.0.45 UninstallDisplayIcon= AppComments=Mysql 5.0.45 DirExistsWarning=yes VersionInfoTextVersion=Mysql 5.0.45 VersionInfoVersion=5.0.45 ShowLanguageDialog=yes InternalCompressLevel=max Encryption=false WizardImageBackColor=clBlue PrivilegesRequired=admin DisableStartupPrompt=false OutputDir=D:\SYGECOM\CD ShowUndisplayableLanguages=true ExtraDiskSpaceRequired=100 DisableDirPage=false UsePreviousGroup=false AppendDefaultGroupName=false UsePreviousAppDir=true AllowUNCPath=false AppendDefaultDirName=false UsePreviousTasks=false [Languages] Name: pt; MessagesFile: compiler:Languages\BrazilianPortuguese.isl Name: en; MessagesFile: compiler:Default.isl Name: sp; MessagesFile: compiler:Languages\Spanish.isl [Messages] pt.BeveledLabel=Português(Brasil) en.BeveledLabel=English sp.BeveledLabel=Spanish [Run] Filename: {app}\inicia.bat; WorkingDir: {app}; Flags: waituntilidle postinstall runminimized; Description: Inicio do Serviço do Mysql; StatusMsg: Aguarde em até que o Serviço seja iniciado... [Dirs] Name: {app}\bin Name: {app}\data Name: {app}\scripts Name: {app}\share Name: {app}\data\mysql Name: {app}\data\sygecom Name: {app}\data\test Name: {app}\share\charsets Name: {app}\share\czech Name: {app}\share\danish Name: {app}\share\dutch Name: {app}\share\english Name: {app}\share\estonian Name: {app}\share\french Name: {app}\share\german Name: {app}\share\greek Name: {app}\share\hungarian Name: {app}\share\italian Name: {app}\share\japanese Name: {app}\share\japanese-sjis Name: {app}\share\korean Name: {app}\share\norwegian Name: {app}\share\norwegian-ny Name: {app}\share\polish Name: {app}\share\portuguese Name: {app}\share\romanian Name: {app}\share\russian Name: {app}\share\serbian Name: {app}\share\slovak Name: {app}\share\spanish Name: {app}\share\swedish Name: {app}\share\ukrainian [Files] Source: mysql\bin\mysql.exe; DestDir: {app}\bin Source: mysql\bin\mysqladmin.exe; DestDir: {app}\bin Source: mysql\bin\mysqld.exe; DestDir: {app}\bin Source: mysql\bin\mysqld-nt.exe; DestDir: {app}\bin Source: mysql\bin\mysqldump.exe; DestDir: {app}\bin Source: mysql\data\mysql\columns_priv.frm; DestDir: {app}\data\mysql Source: mysql\data\mysql\columns_priv.MYD; DestDir: {app}\data\mysql Source: mysql\data\mysql\columns_priv.MYI; DestDir: {app}\data\mysql Source: mysql\data\mysql\db.frm; DestDir: {app}\data\mysql Source: mysql\data\mysql\db.MYD; DestDir: {app}\data\mysql Source: mysql\data\mysql\db.MYI; DestDir: {app}\data\mysql Source: mysql\data\mysql\func.frm; DestDir: {app}\data\mysql Source: mysql\data\mysql\func.MYD; DestDir: {app}\data\mysql Source: mysql\data\mysql\func.MYI; DestDir: {app}\data\mysql Source: mysql\data\mysql\help_category.frm; DestDir: {app}\data\mysql Source: mysql\data\mysql\help_category.MYD; DestDir: {app}\data\mysql Source: mysql\data\mysql\help_category.MYI; DestDir: {app}\data\mysql Source: mysql\data\mysql\help_keyword.frm; DestDir: {app}\data\mysql Source: mysql\data\mysql\help_keyword.MYD; DestDir: {app}\data\mysql Source: mysql\data\mysql\help_keyword.MYI; DestDir: {app}\data\mysql Source: mysql\data\mysql\help_relation.frm; DestDir: {app}\data\mysql Source: mysql\data\mysql\help_relation.MYD; DestDir: {app}\data\mysql Source: mysql\data\mysql\help_relation.MYI; DestDir: {app}\data\mysql Source: mysql\data\mysql\help_topic.frm; DestDir: {app}\data\mysql Source: mysql\data\mysql\help_topic.MYD; DestDir: {app}\data\mysql Source: mysql\data\mysql\help_topic.MYI; DestDir: {app}\data\mysql Source: mysql\data\mysql\host.frm; DestDir: {app}\data\mysql Source: mysql\data\mysql\host.MYD; DestDir: {app}\data\mysql Source: mysql\data\mysql\host.MYI; DestDir: {app}\data\mysql Source: mysql\data\mysql\proc.frm; DestDir: {app}\data\mysql Source: mysql\data\mysql\proc.MYD; DestDir: {app}\data\mysql Source: mysql\data\mysql\proc.MYI; DestDir: {app}\data\mysql Source: mysql\data\mysql\procs_priv.frm; DestDir: {app}\data\mysql Source: mysql\data\mysql\procs_priv.MYD; DestDir: {app}\data\mysql Source: mysql\data\mysql\procs_priv.MYI; DestDir: {app}\data\mysql Source: mysql\data\mysql\tables_priv.frm; DestDir: {app}\data\mysql Source: mysql\data\mysql\tables_priv.MYD; DestDir: {app}\data\mysql Source: mysql\data\mysql\tables_priv.MYI; DestDir: {app}\data\mysql Source: mysql\data\mysql\time_zone.frm; DestDir: {app}\data\mysql Source: mysql\data\mysql\time_zone.MYD; DestDir: {app}\data\mysql Source: mysql\data\mysql\time_zone.MYI; DestDir: {app}\data\mysql Source: mysql\data\mysql\time_zone_leap_second.frm; DestDir: {app}\data\mysql Source: mysql\data\mysql\time_zone_leap_second.MYD; DestDir: {app}\data\mysql Source: mysql\data\mysql\time_zone_leap_second.MYI; DestDir: {app}\data\mysql Source: mysql\data\mysql\time_zone_name.frm; DestDir: {app}\data\mysql Source: mysql\data\mysql\time_zone_name.MYD; DestDir: {app}\data\mysql Source: mysql\data\mysql\time_zone_name.MYI; DestDir: {app}\data\mysql Source: mysql\data\mysql\time_zone_transition.frm; DestDir: {app}\data\mysql Source: mysql\data\mysql\time_zone_transition.MYD; DestDir: {app}\data\mysql Source: mysql\data\mysql\time_zone_transition.MYI; DestDir: {app}\data\mysql Source: mysql\data\mysql\time_zone_transition_type.frm; DestDir: {app}\data\mysql Source: mysql\data\mysql\time_zone_transition_type.MYD; DestDir: {app}\data\mysql Source: mysql\data\mysql\time_zone_transition_type.MYI; DestDir: {app}\data\mysql Source: mysql\data\mysql\user.frm; DestDir: {app}\data\mysql Source: mysql\data\mysql\user.MYD; DestDir: {app}\data\mysql Source: mysql\data\mysql\user.MYI; DestDir: {app}\data\mysql Source: mysql\data\ib_logfile0; DestDir: {app}\data Source: mysql\data\ib_logfile1; DestDir: {app}\data Source: mysql\data\ibdata1; DestDir: {app}\data Source: mysql\data\NOTE.err; DestDir: {app}\data Source: mysql\data\servidor.pid; DestDir: {app}\data Source: mysql\scripts\cmake_install.cmake; DestDir: {app}\scripts Source: mysql\scripts\CMakeLists.txt; DestDir: {app}\scripts Source: mysql\scripts\comp_sql.c; DestDir: {app}\scripts Source: mysql\scripts\comp_sql.vcproj; DestDir: {app}\scripts Source: mysql\scripts\comp_sql.vcproj.cmake; DestDir: {app}\scripts Source: mysql\scripts\GenFixPrivs.vcproj; DestDir: {app}\scripts Source: mysql\scripts\GenFixPrivs.vcproj.cmake; DestDir: {app}\scripts Source: mysql\scripts\INSTALL.vcproj; DestDir: {app}\scripts Source: mysql\scripts\INSTALL.vcproj.cmake; DestDir: {app}\scripts Source: mysql\scripts\make_binary_distribution; DestDir: {app}\scripts Source: mysql\scripts\make_sharedlib_distribution; DestDir: {app}\scripts Source: mysql\scripts\make_win_bin_dist; DestDir: {app}\scripts Source: mysql\scripts\make_win_src_distribution; DestDir: {app}\scripts Source: mysql\scripts\msql2mysql; DestDir: {app}\scripts Source: mysql\scripts\mysql_config; DestDir: {app}\scripts Source: mysql\scripts\mysql_convert_table_format; DestDir: {app}\scripts Source: mysql\scripts\mysql_explain_log; DestDir: {app}\scripts Source: mysql\scripts\mysql_find_rows; DestDir: {app}\scripts Source: mysql\scripts\mysql_fix_extensions; DestDir: {app}\scripts Source: mysql\scripts\mysql_fix_privilege_tables; DestDir: {app}\scripts Source: mysql\scripts\mysql_fix_privilege_tables_sql.c; DestDir: {app}\scripts Source: mysql\scripts\mysql_install_db; DestDir: {app}\scripts Source: mysql\scripts\mysql_secure_installation; DestDir: {app}\scripts Source: mysql\scripts\mysql_setpermission; DestDir: {app}\scripts Source: mysql\scripts\mysql_tableinfo; DestDir: {app}\scripts Source: mysql\scripts\mysql_upgrade_shell; DestDir: {app}\scripts Source: mysql\scripts\mysql_zap; DestDir: {app}\scripts Source: mysql\scripts\mysqlaccess; DestDir: {app}\scripts Source: mysql\scripts\mysqlaccess.conf; DestDir: {app}\scripts Source: mysql\scripts\mysqlbug; DestDir: {app}\scripts Source: mysql\scripts\mysqld_multi; DestDir: {app}\scripts Source: mysql\scripts\mysqld_safe; DestDir: {app}\scripts Source: mysql\scripts\mysqldumpslow; DestDir: {app}\scripts Source: mysql\scripts\mysqlhotcopy; DestDir: {app}\scripts Source: mysql\share\charsets\armscii8.xml; DestDir: {app}\share\charsets Source: mysql\share\charsets\ascii.xml; DestDir: {app}\share\charsets Source: mysql\share\charsets\cp850.xml; DestDir: {app}\share\charsets Source: mysql\share\charsets\cp852.xml; DestDir: {app}\share\charsets Source: mysql\share\charsets\cp866.xml; DestDir: {app}\share\charsets Source: mysql\share\charsets\cp1250.xml; DestDir: {app}\share\charsets Source: mysql\share\charsets\cp1251.xml; DestDir: {app}\share\charsets Source: mysql\share\charsets\cp1256.xml; DestDir: {app}\share\charsets Source: mysql\share\charsets\cp1257.xml; DestDir: {app}\share\charsets Source: mysql\share\charsets\dec8.xml; DestDir: {app}\share\charsets Source: mysql\share\charsets\geostd8.xml; DestDir: {app}\share\charsets Source: mysql\share\charsets\greek.xml; DestDir: {app}\share\charsets Source: mysql\share\charsets\hebrew.xml; DestDir: {app}\share\charsets Source: mysql\share\charsets\hp8.xml; DestDir: {app}\share\charsets Source: mysql\share\charsets\Index.xml; DestDir: {app}\share\charsets Source: mysql\share\charsets\keybcs2.xml; DestDir: {app}\share\charsets Source: mysql\share\charsets\koi8r.xml; DestDir: {app}\share\charsets Source: mysql\share\charsets\koi8u.xml; DestDir: {app}\share\charsets Source: mysql\share\charsets\languages.html; DestDir: {app}\share\charsets Source: mysql\share\charsets\latin1.xml; DestDir: {app}\share\charsets Source: mysql\share\charsets\latin2.xml; DestDir: {app}\share\charsets Source: mysql\share\charsets\latin5.xml; DestDir: {app}\share\charsets Source: mysql\share\charsets\latin7.xml; DestDir: {app}\share\charsets Source: mysql\share\charsets\macce.xml; DestDir: {app}\share\charsets Source: mysql\share\charsets\macroman.xml; DestDir: {app}\share\charsets Source: mysql\share\charsets\README; DestDir: {app}\share\charsets Source: mysql\share\charsets\swe7.xml; DestDir: {app}\share\charsets Source: mysql\share\czech\errmsg.sys; DestDir: {app}\share\czech Source: mysql\share\danish\errmsg.sys; DestDir: {app}\share\danish Source: mysql\share\dutch\errmsg.sys; DestDir: {app}\share\dutch Source: mysql\share\english\errmsg.sys; DestDir: {app}\share\english Source: mysql\share\estonian\errmsg.sys; DestDir: {app}\share\estonian Source: mysql\share\french\errmsg.sys; DestDir: {app}\share\french Source: mysql\share\german\errmsg.sys; DestDir: {app}\share\german Source: mysql\share\greek\errmsg.sys; DestDir: {app}\share\greek Source: mysql\share\hungarian\errmsg.sys; DestDir: {app}\share\hungarian Source: mysql\share\italian\errmsg.sys; DestDir: {app}\share\italian Source: mysql\share\japanese\errmsg.sys; DestDir: {app}\share\japanese Source: mysql\share\japanese-sjis\errmsg.sys; DestDir: {app}\share\japanese-sjis Source: mysql\share\korean\errmsg.sys; DestDir: {app}\share\korean Source: mysql\share\norwegian\errmsg.sys; DestDir: {app}\share\norwegian Source: mysql\share\norwegian-ny\errmsg.sys; DestDir: {app}\share\norwegian-ny Source: mysql\share\polish\errmsg.sys; DestDir: {app}\share\polish Source: mysql\share\portuguese\errmsg.sys; DestDir: {app}\share\portuguese Source: mysql\share\romanian\errmsg.sys; DestDir: {app}\share\romanian Source: mysql\share\russian\errmsg.sys; DestDir: {app}\share\russian Source: mysql\share\serbian\errmsg.sys; DestDir: {app}\share\serbian Source: mysql\share\slovak\errmsg.sys; DestDir: {app}\share\slovak Source: mysql\share\spanish\errmsg.sys; DestDir: {app}\share\spanish Source: mysql\share\swedish\errmsg.sys; DestDir: {app}\share\swedish Source: mysql\share\ukrainian\errmsg.sys; DestDir: {app}\share\ukrainian Source: mysql\share\mysql_test_data_timezone.sql; DestDir: {app}\share Source: mysql\share\errmsg.txt; DestDir: {app}\share Source: mysql\share\fill_help_tables.sql; DestDir: {app}\share Source: mysql\share\Makefile.am; DestDir: {app}\share Source: mysql\share\Makefile.in; DestDir: {app}\share Source: mysql\share\mysql_fix_privilege_tables.sql; DestDir: {app}\share Source: mysql\share\mysql_system_tables.sql; DestDir: {app}\share Source: mysql\share\mysql_system_tables_data.sql; DestDir: {app}\share Source: mysql\share\mysql_system_tables_fix.sql; DestDir: {app}\share Source: mysql\mysql_error.log; DestDir: {app} Source: mysql\COPYING; DestDir: {app} Source: mysql\EXCEPTIONS-CLIENT; DestDir: {app} Source: mysql\inicia.bat; DestDir: {app} Source: mysql\my-huge.ini; DestDir: {app} Source: mysql\my-innodb-heavy-4G.ini; DestDir: {app} Source: mysql\my-large.ini; DestDir: {app} Source: mysql\my-medium.ini; DestDir: {app} Source: mysql\my-small.ini; DestDir: {app} Source: mysql\mysql.bmp; DestDir: {app} Source: mysql\fim.bat; DestDir: {app} [iNI] Filename: {app}\my.ini; Section: client; Key: port; String: 3306 Filename: {app}\my.ini; Section: mysqld; Key: port; String: 3306 Filename: {app}\my.ini; Section: mysqld; Key: basedir; String: {app}; Languages: Filename: {app}\my.ini; Section: mysqld; Key: log-error; String: {app}\mysql_error.log Filename: {app}\my.ini; Section: mysqld; Key: datadir; String: {app}\data Filename: {app}\my.ini; Section: mysqld; Key: default-character-set; String: latin1 Filename: {app}\my.ini; Section: mysqld; Key: max_connections; String: 255 Filename: {app}\my.ini; Section: mysqld; Key: query_cache_size; String: 8M Filename: {app}\my.ini; Section: mysqld; Key: table_cache; String: 510 Filename: {app}\my.ini; Section: mysqld; Key: tmp_table_size; String: 13M Filename: {app}\my.ini; Section: mysqld; Key: thread_cache_size; String: 12 Filename: {app}\my.ini; Section: mysqld; Key: myisam_max_sort_file_size; String: 100G Filename: {app}\my.ini; Section: mysqld; Key: myisam_max_extra_sort_file_size; String: 100G Filename: {app}\my.ini; Section: mysqld; Key: myisam_sort_buffer_size; String: 8M Filename: {app}\my.ini; Section: mysqld; Key: key_buffer_size; String: 9M Filename: {app}\my.ini; Section: mysqld; Key: read_buffer_size; String: 64K Filename: {app}\my.ini; Section: mysqld; Key: read_rnd_buffer_size; String: 256K Filename: {app}\my.ini; Section: mysqld; Key: sort_buffer_size; String: 203K Filename: {app}\my.ini; Section: mysqld; Key: innodb_additional_mem_pool_size; String: 2M Filename: {app}\my.ini; Section: mysqld; Key: innodb_flush_log_at_trx_commit; String: 1 Filename: {app}\my.ini; Section: mysqld; Key: innodb_log_buffer_size; String: 1M Filename: {app}\my.ini; Section: mysqld; Key: innodb_buffer_pool_size; String: 15M Filename: {app}\my.ini; Section: mysqld; Key: innodb_log_file_size; String: 10M Filename: {app}\my.ini; Section: mysqld; Key: innodb_thread_concurrency; String: 8 [uninstallRun] Filename: {app}\fim.bat; WorkingDir: {app}; Flags: runminimized [uninstallDelete] Name: {app}\my.ini; Type: files // fim do script Leonardo Machado Porto Alegre-RS Hwgui + Mysql / xHarbour 0.99.70 / BCC55 / Vrmm / xDev /Migrando aos Pouco para Fivewin 2.7 + PostgreSql Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcleoner Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 Leonardo Estou usando a versão 5.0.19 d0 MySql. Precisaria mudar alguma coisa nesse script alem do endereço do mysql e do nro da versão ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sygecom Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 Tche, é só comparar os arquivos que tem ai....com os da sua versão.... Leonardo Machado Porto Alegre-RS Hwgui + Mysql / xHarbour 0.99.70 / BCC55 / Vrmm / xDev /Migrando aos Pouco para Fivewin 2.7 + PostgreSql Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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